Posts Tagged ‘Hunt Sab’

While the main action of the hunting season won’t be with us until the grotesque “cubbing” kicks off in the autumn the summer is usually a time for raising funds, relaxing and getting organised for the season to come. Of course if the badger cull does get under way then all the sabs including myself will fully committed to that however in this lull there is still the desire out there amongst those who like to kill wild animals for fun to get some of their kicks in the sunshine.

The Otter was once hunted throughout the UK and this, along with pesticides and the reduction in quality habitat lead to a drastic decline in numbers and it largely disappeared from our inland waterways with only the remote coastal areas of the highlands and islands maintaining a credible population. Luckily for us this elusive mammal has made a remarkable return and it’s now claimed to be in every county in England. This increase has clearly come to the attention of those that once hunted this protected animal and it would seem they’re now, once again on the hit list except of course being a protected species you can’t hunt them. This is where the American Mink comes in.

The American Mink is an invasive species, released into our countryside by both well-meaning but misguided animal rights activists and (in far greater numbers) by the Mink farmers themselves when the fur industry started to collapse in the wake of the public outcry regarding the wearing of animal fur. Our Native Bank Vole has suffered at the hands of this adaptable predator and many wildlife organisations are trying to redress this balance by providing better habitat for the Vole and/or controlling the Mink. However the Mink is now a part of England’s wildlife tapestry and eradicating it will be impossible so it’s time we accepted this and help the suffering native species in non-lethal ways.

So here you have two species which share largely the same habitat, one protected, the other invasive. What are the hunters to do? Let’s just hunt the rivers and call ourselves a Mink hunt, that would appear more justifiable and if we get an Otter by accident then well, that’s just unfortunate. Otter Hounds can now be called Mink Hounds as well just in case anyone asks.

Well, hunting a mammal with a pack of dogs is still illegal regardless of protection status of the species and as I mentioned in my previous blog entry having a pack of large dogs with a full complement of people in daft clothes marauding down a river system during a time when most species are in the full swing of breeding is reckless at best and just downright arrogant and destructive at worst.  This is something that cannot go unchallenged. These hunts are very hard to find, they’re secretive and underground however through hard work some vital intelligence had been gained and so last weekend many sab groups across the country decided on paying these hunts a visit.


Just in case you wondered where we were.

The newly formed Beds and Bucks Hunt Sabs joined the action and after a reasonable drive north into the midlands we met up with the many other groups to stake out the entrance from where the Dove Valley Mink Hounds were due to leave. I say ‘stake out’ however I think ‘blockade’ would be a more appropriate description. It was fantastic to see so many sabs in one area and we had all the entrances covered, they were going nowhere without us knowing about it. Of course it wasn’t long before the local boys in blue made an appearance but after a brief chat about our intentions they disappeared down the private lane to where the kennels were situated. We made ourselves at home, caught up with old friends from the badger cull and generally relaxed. Other groups were simultaneously hitting other hunts across the country and we were confident of a successful day.

The police returned and claimed the hunt had already left but we knew different so stayed put. The police, to their credit seemed OK and stayed with us but in the background and largely disinterested, only putting out a few caution signs for the traffic. We got a few honks of support from passing motorists and apart from a slightly grumpy house occupant it was a pretty uneventful day. The hunt stayed home, nothing was killed and no environmental damage done. It may not be the most exciting thing to have to write about but our ultimate goal was achieved and we did it by sitting round, chatting and eating crisps.

I can’t really complain about that.

Sab Fest!

Sab Fest!

It’s a bit depressing returning from your holidays to the drudgery of the office and everyday life but I count myself lucky I can afford to spend my spare time in such wonderful surroundings and focus on more pressing matters at hand. Preparations for are still in full swing for fighting the Badger Cull and the various groups in the zones are putting in some serious hours and effort surveying the areas in great detail and fund raising to keep boots on the ground 24/7. Our best hope of a stop to the killing is the legal challenge currently under way from the Badger Trust, they’re seeking a judicial review of which full details can be found via their legal representation here. However as has been seen previously these events are difficult to predict so we must be ready to fight the cull in the fields with direct action should the call come. If you’ve been reading my blog you will of course already have a few tips on what you need to do plus the kit that’ll you’ll need and if you’re new here (welcome) then please take the time to go back through the archives for the three part series Called “Fighting the Cull”.

Moving on now and last week a friend on Facebook highlighted an interesting thread which had appeared on the on-line forum of Horse and Hound magazine. A user had posed the question of the types of interaction the hunters had experienced with the “Antis”. Of course any discussion in such a publication is going to be a one sided affair but there were a few interesting comments which deserve some closer inspection. Many obviously noted the usual verbal abuse (this is of course and two way street in real terms) and how quite often the antis were able to take control of the hounds (great sabbing skills there) and allow the fox to escape. There were of course some ridiculous claims which were clearly nonsense and obviously no mention of the violence from the pro-hunt followers or hunters themselves against the antis or sabs which is all too commonly caught on camera. One point was however crystal clear, there was not a single claim of violence from the anti-hunting groups which was nice to see and a primary directive of the HSA, non-violent direct action.



While reading all these comments and the complaints from those posting a singular thought crossed my mind. I was tempted to create a false account and join the discussion but the thread was a little old and no doubt I’d have been bombarded with abuse and banned in pretty short time so instead I’ll pose the question here. Substitute the word “hunting” for “drug dealing” (or any major media favourite crime for that matter) and then ask yourself how good is the pro argument now? OK that may seem a little extreme but the simple fact is both are illegal (for the point of the article we’ll assume they’re breaking the Hunting with Dogs Act 2004 as many had complained of the fox escaping due to the actions of the anti-groups). There aren’t versions of illegal, it’s pretty black and white; you’re either breaking the law or you’re not. Obviously there are differences in the severity of offence but what struck me is that all the people posting on this thread seemed to have the belief that what they were doing was either OK or they thought they were simply above the law and it didn’t apply to them.

From this we can draw the simple conclusion that people who hunt are either ignorant (of the laws of the land) which is clearly no excuse or are supremely arrogant and believe the laws are for everyone else and they need not bother with such trivialities. You can probably guess what outcome would have arisen had I posed the question. Outrage and indignation that their tradition was being compared to such a heinous crime however from whichever standpoint you view the discussion the point of the argument remains the same and is undeniable and I’ll say once again; you’re either breaking the law or you’re not. I’m still tempted to jump in and see if my predictions come to pass, I’ll think on that one. It is also slightly worrying that there’s a whole forum dedicated to animal torture and killing. I guess the fight is going to be a long one but rest assured we’ll be there every step of the way and making it as difficult as possible for those who get their kicks in this manner.

While I was there I also gained some interesting intelligence about hunts which will be getting a visit when the season starts again this autumn. A new group of sabs have formed (Beds and Bucks Hunt Sabs – give us a like) which will be my home group and we’re looking forward to making an impact and getting stuck in so to any pro hunt types in the area reading this I say to you, watch out, because we’re coming for you.

In other news I notice that the Mink hunts are active once again. Regardless of your thoughts on the Mink, hunting a mammal with dogs is still illegal and the whole Mink thing is a complete subterfuge for hunting Otters. They were hunted to extinction from many of our rivers a long time ago and now they’re making a good comeback so the hunts think its game on once again. Even ignoring this fact having a pack of Otter hounds and people rampaging down a river system during the breeding season for most of our bird, mammal, reptile and fish species is nothing more than environmental vandalism. The damage done cannot be overstated.

I’ll leave you with the video of my trip to Mull. Enjoy.

While we wait on any legal challenges from the Badger Trust regarding the continuation of the NFU sponsored killing exercise we have to continue to assume the worst and get organised. Rumours regarding the defaulting on license requirements set by Natural England will continue to appear right up to the time the first (next) shot is taken so making sure we’re ready and able to counter that is paramount. In this article I’ll go through the groups you can join, what they set out to achieve and who to contact. I’ll also go through your basic requirements of clothing and kit to help keep you in the fields and effective.

Groups in the Zones

The first thing you need to do once you’ve made that decision to take direct action is ask yourself a simple question. “How far am I prepared to go?”

There is no right or wrong answer to this question. Everyone has a place and everyone can make a difference. The simple fact is without those people staying at home and donating money to the cause it would be very difficult to fund the direct action in the fields. However we’re now concentrating on what you actually want to do once you’re out there and this is purely down to personal choice. Everyone’s situation is different. There’s no prejudice in saving our wildlife (unless you’re a sexist, homophobic fascist) so don’t think you won’t be welcome. So assuming the question has been asked and answered honestly then let’s have a look at which groups will suit your level of involvement.

Wounded Badger Patrol

As the name implies these people walk footpaths throughout the night in the zones looking for badgers which have been shot and injured so they can take them to the nearest wildlife hospital for treatment. However in the real world it’s a lot more than that. Run by both GABS (Gloucestershire Against Badger Shooting), Somerset Against the Cull and now jointly part of SWAB (South West Alliance for Badgers) these organisations stick within the law and exercise their right to access public footpaths at any time of day or night. Many of these footpaths will take them close to setts and in the direct line of fire of any shooters. They wear Hi Viz jackets and make themselves obvious in the hope any wildlife will have long since left the area and shooters will, under the license stipulations set by DEFRA be forced to cease any activity in the area. Of course that’s not always the case and several incidents have occurred where cullers have broken best practice guidelines however that shouldn’t put you off. They also have “sett sitters”, people who will locate themselves in the vicinity of a sett, usually doing a shift of several hours and thus denying that area for shooting purposes and generally acting as static guardians. All of these methods are totally lawful and effective. I would often talk to OAPs at all times of night, they’d be wrapped up in warm clothes, have deck chairs, sandwiches and a flask and show a dedication to duty of which I’d be proud. So if you can read a map and like walking in the countryside with a minimal chance of getting arrested (you’ll still get some intimidation and threats from both the Police and Farmers) then this could be the option for you, you might also get to meet Brian May or Bill Oddie! Click on the links below to find out more.


Hunt Saboteurs

If the WBPers are the political arm of the Badger Army then the hunt sabs are the storm troopers. The simple fact is they made a huge difference in the fight the first time round and they’ll be at the front line once again if it all kicks off. With groups descending on the zones from all over the country and putting in the hours many simply couldn’t the sabs will push the limits of legality to be on the side of the morally and ethically right. They will if necessary do what needs to be done to save lives and that has been the ethos behind the Hunt Saboteur organisation for decades; non-violent, direct action. The downside is you’ll get hassled relentlessly by the police, treated like an enemy of the state with a dirty bomb in your back pack and threatened with violence by lots of tweed wearing, 4×4 driving yokels who think they’re tough. However the rewards can be immense. The proactive nature of their particular brand of direct action means maximum effectiveness against the culling operations. Trouble spots can be negated in minutes through a single phone call as sabs on quick reaction arrive at the scene. If you’re relatively fit, comfortable dealing with the constant police attention and are willing to go that extra mile to save our wildlife these are definitely the guys for you. There are sab groups throughout the country and there’ll no doubt be one near you to get involved with however you’d still be more than welcome to contact the badger office at the time and take instructions directly from them.

sab the cull


What kit do I need?

Clothing – Anyone who’s spent any amount of time outdoors will most likely have some, if not all the necessary clothing. Obviously decent clothing is a must; sturdy, rip-stop trouser are ideal with army combats a favourite, the army use them for a reason and the same rules apply. It can still get quite cold at night even in the summer so a warm fleece or jacket will be up there on the list along with something that’ll keep you dry if it rains. It can get very miserable indeed being wet and cold so staying dry and warm is imperative and you won’t save any lives by staying indoors or sitting in the car. Most of the top brands of outdoor clothing companies will have something to offer however I can personally recommend Paramo clothing. It may be expensive but it’s in a league of its own for performance. Another visit to the army surplus can also provide dividends. Good quality military issue waterproof jackets can be had for less than £50 and you get to pretend you’re in the SAS. Tough, hard wearing and comfortable footwear is a must. Wellies can be used at a push however they don’t give the required support when traversing difficult terrain. Hiking or security forces type boots are ideal but make sure they’re well broken in and you’re happy to spend long hours in them. Good quality thick socks will also help, look after your feet and they’ll look after you. I tend to take at least two pairs with me plus a change of clothing for the drive home as I live over 100 miles from the Gloucestershire zone and like to be comfortable in that time.

Torches – A good quality torch with a readily available supply of batteries. I personally carry a Maglite 4D which I’ve adapted to use a Cree LED. LED’s are brighter and use less power than standard bulbs so it’s a no brainer to go for this type. On one foggy night in the zone last winter it looked like I was using a light sabre! The Maglite may be big and heavy but it’s also a handy tool for self-defence should you need it. The injunction taken out the by NFU stated that torches had to be less than 200 lumens but that’s pretty damn bright and I’d like to see someone prove how many lumens a torch is producing in the field so it’s not something I’d worry too much about. I also carry another smaller but equally bright torch as back-up plus spare batteries. As mentioned in my previous installment a pocket UV torch is always handy to check for smart marking.


The basic kit (bolt croppers optional)

The basic kit

Maps – Make sure you have all the areas you need. I printed off images from the web and laminated them to make them last longer as my OS map became increasingly dog eared. Laminating will also keep them dry and stop them going soggy and falling apart. If you know how to use one take a compass as well. Some smart phones will have apps with maps and location so download the appropriate one for your device and know how to use it. Being lost isn’t going to help anyone and the countryside looks a lot different at night.

Night Vision and FLIR – If you’re lucky enough to own such devices then they can be life savers and really give you an edge. FLIR can spot both animals and people regardless of weather and light conditions but are very expensive, night vision ideally needs to be generation 2+ (again expensive) to be effective at reasonable ranges however lower gen kit can be used.

Cameras & Video – A video camera is a must. This will keep you safe and will also hopefully keep the boys in blue from being excessive. Mobiles phones can also be used for both stills and video although their performance not up to a dedicated device. Remember to record everything of interest, stop and searches by the police, evidence of suspected illegal activity or items which may be of intelligence purposes. My personal choice is the Panasonic HC-V520, full HD, a big 50x optical zoom and good image stabilization, retails for around £250 but any of the top brands for a similar price will do an equal job.

Misc – If you’re feeling particularly rebellious then a nice set of bolt croppers for dealing with anything that needs cutting up. If you didn’t read my previous blog entry then now is probably a good time to do it and the same disclaimer applies. I’m told Wickes supply a perfectly serviceable set for £20 that even comes in a nice shade of dark green. Always take a note pad and pen/pencil. This can help with noting co-ordinates, taking details and anything else which can be used to your advantage. I also carry a box of surgical latex gloves and of course a phone, make sure it’s charged!

Food – Make sure you can stay active and useful by having the right food to chomp your way through. High calorie energy bars full of seeds and nuts and chocolate are good for keeping you going and raising your spirits along with a hot drink, a cuppa really perks you up at stupid o’clock in the morning when you’ve been up all night so a flask in the car is a very welcome sight. It’s also advisable to eat a good meal before you head out.

In the next instalment I’ll try and offer some advice on dealing with the police and what to do if the worst should happen and you get your collar felt. This weekend I’ll be sett surveying in the Gloucestershire zone and attending the March on Saturday. See you there.

I’ve commented before on the impartiality of the police with regards to the Badger Cull and the Hunting with Dogs Act 2004 but a couple of stories came to my attention over the last week which, although a microcosm of the larger picture perfectly highlights how our forces treat both legal and peaceful protest as well as the Hunt Saboteurs who monitor and stop illegal hunting through direct non-violent action.

The first incident happened back in November 2013, the 23rd to be precise when the cull was in full swing in Gloucestershire and tensions were obviously running fairly high. It involves the Chairman of the Bristol NFU branch, a certain Mr Simon Pain. Mr Pain himself would like to paint a picture of being an all-round good guy and nature lover with involvement in and also yet judging by his eagerness to kill one of our iconic native species and act as a low level enforcer this is clearly a cloak of deceit he’s hiding behind while conducting his own aggressive agenda. It’s also pretty well known that the NFU were the driving force behind the Badger Cull, an organisation which only represents 18% of farmers yet those that it does represent own 80% of the land farmed. It’s pretty straightforward to draw some simple conclusions from those facts and understand what type of organisation you’re dealing with. Because of this the power and influence over Government policy and, it seems the police as well only serves to undermine the long held belief by the majority of voters that we live in a democracy.

Wounded Badger Patrollers - Photo from Gloucesthsire Echo

Wounded Badger Patrollers – Photo from Gloucesterhsire Echo

It is alleged that Mr Pain did run over a 50 year old woman who was part of the peaceful protest of the badger cull in his Land Rover. This woman is still fearful for her safety and wants to remain anonymous. The actual witness statement is below:

Please note some names have been changed for obvious reasons.

On the afternoon / evening in question myself & Jackie had been into Tewksbury Police Station to give statements about the previous harassment by the occupants of V172 MAF

We arrived at Gadfield Elm. It was around 5.30pm & it was dark. We saw that Irina was parked outside the chapel as we passed her as we went past to park at our usual spot in the lay-by opposite Glebe Barn.

On passing the second entrance to the fields we saw that V172 MAF (Mr Pain’s Land Rover) was parked behind the hedgerow in the field. There were no occupants.

On seeing this we turned the car round & shot back down to Irina down at the Chapel & asked if she knew it was there. She had she did & that it’d been there for about two hours. I asked if she knew where the occupants had gone & she said she didn’t but there were people in the fields looking for them. We parked Jackie’s car up at the Chapel & went into the field where he was parked.

At this point a few people were coming down the field. We asked if they’d found him & they said they hadn’t. We had a look round the Land Rover which was empty & were standing chatting when he seemed to appear out of nowhere walking down the field on the same side of the hedgerow as us. He was with a blonde teenage girl & two dogs.

At this point all hell broke loose! He started the engine of the Land Rover & accelerated at high speed towards the road. I started running after him as he reached the road & he swerved at speed left onto the road towards the Chapel. As he veered onto the road I saw Jackie go flying into the bushes on the opposite side of the road. I went over to her. She was very distressed & in pain & said that he’d hit her leg with the Land Rover.

At this point he had stopped the vehicle & everyone was shouting at him. I told him that he’d hit her which he denied. He said he was going to call the Police as he said I’d tried to smash his vehicle window with my torch which wasn’t true.

At that point Kay arrived. She took charge of Jackie so I called an ambulance & the Police. I asked Irina to drive her car in front of the Land Rover & block him in which she did until the Police arrived. I also asked one other girl who was there to put her blue Fiesta behind his car to stop him reversing & getting away.

Kay took Jackie to her car & lay her down on the back seat to wait for the ambulance. Jackie was in shock & seemed confused & in pain.

I left Jackie in the care of Kay & went back to the Land Rover which was blocked in. Simon was on the phone & someone told me that he was calling some friends for back up. I took a photo of him but couldn’t get one of the girl as she had put a scarf round her face.

Believing he was calling for back up & expecting a car full of his friends to arrive at any moment I called 999 again. It had been 20 minutes at this point since my last call. I explained again that Jackie had been hit by a vehicle & we had got the culprit blocked in. The ambulance arrived soon after that & the Police followed a few minutes later. We also had a Police helicopter circling overhead.

The Paramedics took charge of Jackie. Kay stayed with her. I explained to the Police what had happened. He ordered us to remove the cars which were blocking Simon in which we did. They officer in charge went over to Simon to get his version of events whilst leaving a number of officers to watch us. I could see that the Police Officer was laughing & joking with him which upset Jackie as she felt that her injuries weren’t being taken seriously. The Police who were instructed to stay with us were asking for our names & addresses which I reminded people that they didn’t have to give. The majority of us refused. A couple of people gave details as the Police threatened them with arrest if they didn’t.

The senior officer came back to me & said that Simon had complained about us harassing him. At this point I informed him that myself & Jackie had given statements to the Police about HIS harassment of us. They asked for the name of the officer we’d given our statements to & I told him.

At this point Drew turned up & the Police told us that they were going to issue both us & Simon with harassment notices & that they were going to investigate the running over of Jackie further. This is when I called Ray & asked for advice on the notices that they were trying to issue to us. He advised not to take them & I relayed that information to everyone. A couple of people did take them but everyone else refused.

At this point they let him go & left. The whole incident took place over the course of 2 1/2 – 3 hours.

As you can see from the statement there are several severe derelictions of duty from the Police involved and also a huge amount a prejudice shown towards the GABS and Hunt Sab members at the scene. First of all the complaints made by the injured party have not been acted upon in the correct manner even though serious offences have been committed. First of all driving on a public footpath is an offence in itself and the collision with a pedestrian, in any other situation would result in the offender most likely being breathalysed and arrested. Considering the number of credible witnesses to the offence and the injured party herself it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to work out what has transpired. It is also concerning the time it took for them to react to the incident and arrive on the scene. In one night alone in a very small radius of operations I counted 7 police wagons all containing 6 officers, 6 marked vehicles containing 4 officers and 2 4×4 type vehicles containing 2 each. With that level of police presence a unit should have been on the scene in a matter of minutes and their lack of response shows they weren’t taking the incident seriously. I wonder how quickly they would have arrived had the complaint come from the NFU?

Out of their depth?

In the dark and out of their depth

To rub salt into the wounds the police seemed to show an obvious level of favouritism toward Mr Pain, laughing and joking with him when they should have been locking him up and taking him to the station in a manner befitting the crimes he’d committed which could have potentially caused a threat to life. The police have then intimidated the witnesses in a completely unlawful manner, treating them as criminals and demanding details when they had no legal requirement to do so. We should also note that prior to the incident above Mr Pain had been reported on three other occasions to the police for harassment and intimidation, anyone else behaving like this would have got an ASBO or have been prosecuted under the Protection from Harassment Act 1997. Clearly Mr Pain believed he was untouchable and this lead him to behave in the manner described above.

So what conclusions can we draw from this?

Firstly the police, contrary to their claims were clearly in cahoots with the NFU. It has also been widely reported that NFU members were actively involved in the police control room. The NFU members were obviously well known to the police and as such the police showed a complete disregard for the witness statements if it contradicted that of the NFU’s official. This kind of behaviour is a severe breach of the policing guidelines and proves they were nothing more than a private security firm acting on behalf of a non-elected corporate entity.

Secondly we have to question where and when these directives were issued. Was it just some bad officers reacting poorly to a situation when they saw one of their friends from the NFU involved or was it, as I and many others suspect, an order from senior officers to crack down on any type of lawful and legal protests in the cull zone whilst at the same time giving a free reign to the NFU to intimidate those taking part in the protests and thus forcing them out of the area so more sustained killing could take place? From my own experience in Gloucestershire it was obvious to me the police were way out of their depth in the dealings with both the sabs and the GABS protests. These were educated people, a unified middle section of England, who largely knew their rights and were effective in their protests. In the face of such well organised resistance they reverted to type and treated people like incoherent drunks at chucking out time in the city centres, using heavy handed methods and unnecessary force. It seemed to me that most officers had no idea what was going on or how to deal with what they were faced with, some of them had no idea where they actually were and asked for directions!

Final word on this subject comes from Tina Martin of the GABS Police Liaison Team:

“We have a long list of other offences they are pursuing with Gloucestershire Constabulary including five firearms offences, multiple incidents of harassment and intimidation, wildlife crimes and culling on land without the owner’s knowledge or consent. These are just the tip of a very large iceberg, we have records of dozens more offences committed by pro-cull activists, and very few have been dealt with properly by the police. Acts of intimidation on our patrols became so commonplace that members stopped reporting them all.”

“However, it is clear the police were totally unprepared for the level of criminal activity by these people, whereas they pursued lawful objectors to the cull in a very heavy handed and prejudiced way. They have claimed strenuously that their actions were impartial but our evidence proves the opposite. Whether the cull continues or not, we will pursue these cases until they are resolved. Meanwhile, the government’s claim that the cull was safe has started to sound a little hollow.”

My second issue came to light through the publication of a video and report from the West Midlands Hunt Saboteurs and highlights how biased the police are when dealing with the hunt sabs and indeed protecting illegal hunting.

After viewing the footage you’re left with no doubt Northamptonshire Police are under instructions to impede, harass and generally be obnoxious to the sabs in any manner they deem fit to employ with no real justification for their actions. In the video they claim their actions are justified citing breach of the peace laws or interfering with the lawful activity of another person or persons when in fact all they’re doing is directly assisting in the course of an illegal activity, they may as well kill the foxes themselves. That particular officer (Sargent 348 Holton) should check the Hunting with Dogs Act 2004; he might just be surprised and learn something. My own experiences with regards to hunts has shown the police will arrive mob handed and very quickly (and even have their own liaison officer) when called by the hunt and be quick to demand personal details without a lawful entitlement yet when the hunt or its supporters become violent they’re nowhere to be seen or will simply rock up hours later claiming lack of resources. Those resources never seem to be in short supply when even the helicopter has been put up to keep tabs on the location of sabs in the area.

These actions just drive an even bigger wedge between the public and police when confidence in them is at an all-time low. So in answer to my opening question; do the police really work for us?

Well, unless you’re a large & powerful corporate entity, a significant land owner or someone who likes to torture and kill wild animals for fun or indeed a government then the simple answer in no, they don’t and what’s even worse is we’re paying for the pleasure of it.

Thanks to Pete & Tina Martin from GABS for the information.